When you think "I can't do it", your mind will give you all the reasons why that's true. So if you put those on paper and question them, it doesnt leave much "I can't do it".(Right). It leaves when you have the thought "I can't do it."um, you can immediately go to “how would I know that?” I mean that's just a theory.
Yeah，it's llike , well, you , you can't know that you can't , and you can't know that you can. It's just that one is easier than the other. One is uh less in your way, because there's less trail to prove it.
I can. ("I can" is easier...？) Sure, sure, because when you believe I can, your mind immediately trails into ways and options,(Right), pulling it off.But when you're into,, when you believe "I can't do it", your mind immediately is showing you all the reasons you can't.(Right.)
So, either way when you believe it, the mind supports that.(Right). That's how you, uh, continue to believe. So with this mind, the way, the way it's working from here, like my mind is everyone's mind, and the way, the way it speaks and lives and exists and believes from here, is uh... If someone says," Katie, you can't do it." I think, "you know, they could be right, and who knows." I don't have to go "rah, rah, rah, yes I can... " It's " who knows, they could be right.Who knows" But I don't believe I can, I don't believe I can't, and if it's something I want, I just move to it. (Right, and ... ) And I notice I just moved to it, or I don't. And even, even a want isn't true. They're just the stories the mind tells, as life appears to go.
Right. You've mentioned that there're no new stressful thoughts.
是的。你提到过，世界上没有新鲜的有压力的想法。
Katie:
Yes, all recycled, and I've noticed that in every language, every country in the world that I've ever traveled, gilgamesh(吉尔伽美什,传说中的苏美尔国王), the oldest known, written epic, the oldest epic , known to man, and it was chiseled in clay, and all of the beliefs that are in that book, and my husband translated (mm-hm) this book, so I had an opportunity to ,to ,uh, to look into it, and I saw what I've known for more than 20 years, and that is there are no new stressful thoughts, chiseled into that that clay stone. There, we're still living them today, we're still believing them today. And if you think uh, um, any belief that we have considered here, talked about today, nothing new, nothing new,nothing new.nothing new.nothing new. And when we look at, uh, at the questioned mind, and how it just flows and cuts through everything, it just does not have time to get stuck.(Right) And it has no way to get stuck. It's free.
Yeah. And that's , you know, the judge- your-neighbor worksheet I , uh, I designed it, uh, just understanding that, all thoughts are about "I want, I need, you should, you shouldn't..."(Oh, Yeah.Right) And it's , it's all lined out, "I don't ever want to ..." and basically "It's your fault." And "if you changed, then my life would be better. And of course so would yours...." And, uh, that's ridiculous. We've been working under that system forever ,and we're still at war with the self, war in our homes, communities, countries, world.
It's like a child isn't born when they come out of the womb, the child is born the moment that they become a believer. It's like the parent could say, "Your name is, is Emily.“ And, and let's say Emily, is this little infant, and the parent could say," You're Emily, you're Emily." She's just a gogo-gaga.( Right), She's, she is, not gonna, you know, that means nothing to her. When she gets a little older, "Emily,Emily,Emily" means nothing to her, nothing at all. And then in some moment, she,,, you say," You're Emily." She becomes a believer, (Right), and in that moment, she's born with whatever it is. I could say "it's a tree." The moment she becomes a believer, she's born, she is seperated out. And who did it? Not the parent, the believer, the mind is identified as ,as this( Katie Pointing to her face),(Right),as I.
She was, she was only what you believed her to be. And she was not bothered.(Right,haha). She was a non-believer.(Right). And, and ,she was nothing. And you said "She cries, she's hungry, she's thirsty, she needs her diaper change." But she never told you that, and you interpreted her crying as that, and good, you change her diaper, you feel better. And but we , we say"she this, she that,she this, she that, she wants up, she wants down, she's sleepy, she wants to get...." You know, and she ,, you know, it's a wonderful story. And there you have it.
Right.Can a depressed person get out of being depressed without medication or therapy?
对的。那么一个抑郁的人能否不用吃药和医学治疗就能够脱离抑郁的呢？
Katie:
You know, , um ,I know that I did, and if I did, you know, from the tomb that I was living in, that um, if I can, I don't know why anyone else couldn't. And I don't know. I know it's possible because I walk that.
Right. I mean but even for me, I mean I ,, It's hard for me to say, I don't know what one other person's depression is, but as you talk today about stressful thoughts.
There're no new one, so ,,(Yeah,),I know what they're believing.(Right.) I mean there are no mysteries, it's over. I mean when you know your own mind, it's over.When you ,once you understand mind,the mystery is gone. So that's the end of seeking anything.
So let's say, you know, if I have a stresssful thought, " She doesn't love me." , whatever, I ，I mean there's I can think of many, and let's say the guy in prison, whatever he believed, you know, and then he murdered his... (His girlfriend.) his girlfriend. What's the difference I didn't murder,,,, you know, I had the same stressful thoughts. but I didn't do what he did.
Well, if you look at the stressful thought, "She doesn't think I'm worthy." The mind shows all the proof. Well,yours trails so far, and then comes back. But his is just keep showing, all the proof that it's true, what he's believing about her. And then uh, all of these that's holding it up, it's huge.mmm-hmm, that's how murder happens. But if you question this one, like "She doesn't think I'm worthy, or worthwhile." Is it , and it starts to show you all the proofs and you question it, "Is it true?" Then this drops,(Right.), and you can wait to, uh, to see "Can I absolutely know that it's true?"
And what I like to do,, it's like if, if I had the thought "You don't like me."Uh, I absolutely know that No.1 ,it's none of my business, it's ridiculous. And No.2, that I can't know your mind. Because mind is, you know, there's one mind, but if you put it all together, it's one schizophrenic mind, one multiple personality mind, you know, it's thought,um in time and space, it just appears to be happening differently. But if you put it all together. It's one mind, no time in it. So it appears to be in time.
If I had the thought um, "He doesn't like me" Immediately I would just say, " Do you like me?" and use your mind. And if you said,"I don't". Then I think, "That's interesting, our minds match."(Em haha). And if you said "I do." I think," Well, that's interesting." You know, nice to know the truth. And I believe everything you say, just like I believe, uh, everything I think, Uh, one way or the other， It's just mind repecting mind.(Right).Mind respecting itself, mind's not at war with its own mind, which is every mind, all mind.（And then ,any answer..）Mind always met.(Right).
And , and it's not valid, because it's uh, I understand how mind changes.That's how it appears in time.So I've the thought "He doesn't like me.", you know, it doesn't do a lot of good to ask you, because 10 minuters later, you might like me.(Right) So mind changes like that, depending on the story appearing that it's attached to.
