Well this," I took a test at a woman's magazine", you say" I was waiting in a hair salon the magazine caught my eye and I opened it and random. And that said 'how good a lover are you?' there was a page full of questions:' Do you prepare for his arrival?" No. 'Do you put on sexy llingerie?' No.'Do you try special techniques to please him?' No. I added up the numbers at the end and I discovered I had flunked the test. I love that. To their mind, I am a dud, to my mind, I am the perfect lover.
Why would I prepare for his arrival? How could I project anything better than Steven? And why would I bother? He is all I want when he walks in the door, and in every moment. Do I wear sexy ingerie? That might be fun, and I noticed that the thought never occurs to me. I also noticed that it's unnecessary. Do I have special techniques to please him? Why would I try to please him? He is already pleased and I did nothing for it. What were these editors' thinking? Love is not doing nor is making love, who needs props or techiques when the heart is wide open. The real plan is always the way of it, eliminating the need for any plan I might have. I don't know a thing about pleasing or being pleased. So there's no way I can't be the perfect lover." Wow,..
You know, they, the pressure to be hot in lingerie, and you know, what's that about?
要知道，她们的那种穿着性感内衣，想要让自己变得更有魅力的那种压力，你说，她们那样那是为了什么呢？
Katie:
Well, it's about , um , pleasing yourself. And in that it's absolutely understandable. If you're not all,,,,, if you're not pleased with yourself, then you look for other means to do it, that are outside of you.(Right). But when you're pleased with yourself, uh, if someone,,, if you take off your clothes and someone goes,"Eh~~", you know ,it's like, you know, how odd they would see me that way.You know, I hope they do better. And it shows you who not to be with.
And, in all the lingerie, and they could go " Ooh~~!!" They can do the same thing, so you may as well be you.(Right) And,and I think it's marvelous to do all those things, for some of us, that's the best we have going as far as self-esteem.
Well, it was very early after , after the experience. And ,uh, and I heard people talking about hunger, and I want to test it. So it's nothing more than that. (Right , that's) I wanted to see if,,, I was looking for things that were true., and, uh, and I could find any. In fact, I learned that hunger is just another concept,and very frightening when food isn't there. So again, that's how mind stays identified as a body. You know ,mind terrified that when the body dies, it has nothing to identify with. Therefore it's nothing, it's , it's scattered. Can you imagine being ,being mind not body? (No..)You'd have to identify as something to appear to exist. So there's mind and there's body. And if we would work on mind, the way we worked, worked on our body, or be concerned as with mind as we are with body, and put that time in on it. It would, uh, it would really shift us in a whole ,into a whole other paradigm,and that's what I'm asking people to do , to bet on the winner. You know, bodies don't make it.(Right.)
So ,work with mind, you know, it's, it's um it's everything.
所以，对念头做功课，要知道，念头才是一切。
So I tested hunger, and someone told me that, there were people from outer space and Martians, and that they were uh, evil and I was too free, and some Christians and told me, uh, I was too free and evil could get into me that I wasn't careful, I was too open.... I heard all kinds of things from all different traditions and ideas, and I tested them all. And I'm still open.
You know, interesting, you know ,you talked about with body,,,and you know, I don't really know, the gym has sort of shifted for me. Um, and I still go, is something about,, you know, having to produce a certain look , you know ,and I can just go , and , and even , and even wanting to produce that look, that's okay. You know, it's , it's just all of it is okay. You know what I'm saying? I want to produce that look? I don't,, do I? You know, Do I? Yes. Do I? No. But instead of saying"I do want to produce the look,and I believe it." or " I don't want to." or "I shouldn't be here." or "I should be there." I'm there!
Yeah, instead, you just find yourself at the gym or not. (Right.I'm pumping iron.And yay!) Yeah.(So what?!) Yeah.(You know what I'm saying? It's free.) Yeah. Well, that's that's what we do. You know, we're free, to come and go, it's only the mind that would say that we're not.(Right)
But it's like on the way to the gym, the story could be running," I have to do this, I have to do this" or" I'm going to do it to look." you know ,all the stories running. If you question them, you know,"Who would you be without your story?" --- Going to the gym!(Right!)
There are two ways to go to the gym, one is in peace, and one is not. There're two ways not to go to the gym. And you noticed that sometimes you're there, sometimes you're not. (Right).
It's like the child , uh ,Emma with the tantrums, you know, it's all a story.Who would we be without our story? You know, out going to the gym, and not.(Right) You know, out going to the tantrum ,and not. It's just what it is.
Do people worry that without their stories, although I don't know, that that's possible anyway to be without your story, but that there's something gonna be missing from from them, boring, that they'll be boring or they'll be ..(mm-hm) You hear that, right? (mm-hm).
The mind will do anything to keep from ,uh ,losing control. "It would be too boring if I did the work." Well, I would question that one. "I could lose my world, this is terrifying!" That's a good one. You know, question that one. And people who question what they believe, they do lose the world. They lose the world they understand it to be. And it's only the world of suffering that they lose, they don't lose the other. You know, it's, it's uh, it just works that way. And it's not that they don't lose the other, it's just a beautiful world that's left. Actually, HEAVEN is here on EARTH. But because we believe our thoughts about earth, it feels like hell. And so ,HELL is here on EARTH,heaven is here on earth.This is paradise, and we're asleep to it. and I'm inviting people to wake up, or not.
Yeah.But no one can wake them up. You know, these, these questions are again, the answers are personal, and they'll surface. You know,what I love is, when people, you know, anyone can do this work, if their mind is open to it. That they open to it, and just let that child's mind just surface,(Right), and those answers meet the questions,and, and not to fear it. Because, you know, you can take your old belief back anytime you want, and just take the risk and answer ,(mm-hm),and uh,and have a good life.
Anyone who is available to answer the question. It's ageless. If you take a child, they think " Oh, I did it wrong." You take someone on their death-bed," Oh, I did wrong." You know, it's there. There's no young and old, there're only concepts believed. And anyone can answer these simple questions if their mind is open to it.
You know, I've done work, whatever,, workshops and ,and maybe thinking I got somewhere,whatever, um, and it's available to that person too, (Yeah), And it's avaiable to the person who still does the the workshops with the other people.(Yes.Yes),and it doesn't matter.(Yes.) and so I want (Yes) that ,I just think that's important for people to know, because, you know,my question wouldn't be okay.I worked with ex-teacher, which is fine.you know, or , and I, the way I see it, is, it's great because you can work with ex-teacher, and still,, because the four questions are not, it's ,it's about inquiry.(Yeah) So, so I don't see, I see it as harmonious.(It absolutely is) I do.
I mean it doesn't, uh, there's no philosophy here, there's no religion here, there's nothing you have to do here, You don't even have to answer the questions. There is, there're no requirements. And anyone open to it,can ,can do it. It's mind's high play.But you know, why wouldn't, you know. If people say," I'm going to this teacher." and I think ,well of course you would, you know, there's , you , you like that teacher, why wouldn't you? (Right) You know, it would be like, like uh, being with a friend, someone you grow with, and learn from. You know, that is a healthy thing.
And so， if you come to the , and if when you ask the four questions, you end up leaving the teacher, or so what? you know?
所以，如果你问了四个问题，然后你离开了那个老师，那又怎么样呢？是吧？
Katie:
Yeah. well, you could end up leaving the teacher anyway.(Right, wow, that's true.hahaha~~) Yeah, so, you know, its just a story we're telling(Right!) as life appears to go on.(Right.That's uh, Yeah, that's vey good.) It's like, uh, someone walks in the teacher and do all the becauses and the reasons, but if they question that, they're just moving on.(Right).It appears. No one has to be loyal to the work, because it isn't anything. It's four questions, and they don't even say answer me. So it's not even a Thing.
Sure. Because they're, they see it as a thing, and it's not.(RIght) But but of couse they would because I call it the work. So it sounds like a thing even though it's active. And I don't call the work for nothing. This is an ongoing process, because mind is ongoing until it's not.(Right)
Once it's at peace, it comes to see that it's not ,and life begins.
And so it's called the work.(Work).I'm good with that?
所以，你把它称为是要去做的功课，（功课），我理解的不错吧？
Katie:
Yeah. yeah, you know, the word is just in case people, you know, if you have someone thinks, let's say,I did the work and I thought" I am enlightened !" and you know, if you have the work, how can that be? You would have ro question that also. (Right)
So it doesn't leave any room higher or lower, or "they're wiser than I am." The questions will not allow that,(Right), if you answer them. It's , it leaves all of us equally. it leaves one mind balancing itself out.
And as your mind balances, whatever you hear,in other words, as you continue to learn what is true for you and what is not, the whole world shits in that.Because you're able to hear and ,and be a part of reality,rather than seperate from it, and all begins to make sense.