Before I was born, well I'm told, but I, I had a brother who was hit by a car and killed. And my mother was nine months prenant with my oldest brother. And so, and my sister was alive and she didn't.The story goes, you know ,she let him walk to school and he was hit by a car and soon he got killed, and so she had to call my father at work and say,,,, oh ,you know, ,," Joey was killed."
And I did't know it was true until one day, I was nine years old, ah it's like kind of long time after , cuz I was born way after that. And I saw a picture of this kid, and I , he looked like my brother Danny, right? who is younger than my sister, but here was this kid who was Danny looked older than my sister, and all of a suddern, this was a reality for me. Right? But you know, what I never, like something that trigers , you know my parents, like I got to give them credit for the fact that I didn't know, that , do you know what I'm saying? (That's huge.) I didn't know that he existed until I saw his picture, (It went along with their lives) and yeah you know, but it was always thought that , you know like," oh, you know, you didn't tell the kids and you know it wasn't good thing." (We don't talk about it.)We don't talk about that in our,, you know, but I'm thinking, well ,that's pretty,,,, I mean, from my reality as a kid, it's great.
Let's say, one of your children died. (Right.) It is possible for you to keep her alive in all of you, all the days of your life, if there's no sadness, what replaces that has to be something else. So, it's remember the time. "Oh yeah, I remember the time,I remember how she left , I remeber ,,,," And you just keep her alive with your children, with your grandchildren, everybody.She lives,she lives, she's not in the grave, your're not in the grave. And, and it's wonderful because she never ages and, and it's fabulous.
You know, that's again no one can die,(right) you know, we killed them in our heads.
你知道,还是那句老话,没有人能够死亡(是的)。你知道,我们是在头脑中将他们杀死的。
JoB:
What I notice with all my kids, and even when since they've been babies, well, I don't know that I know this, but let's say that I noticed that they have certain behavior patten, certain behaviors, even before they could talk, and I can tell you what they are,(mm-hm), You know, Emma just like had tremendous tantrums, and she would kick, you know we didn't even know why.
So you're calling them tantrums,(Right), and , and that's just an idea. (Right,) Good.
所以,你将其称为发脾气,(是的),嗯,那只是一个概念(是的),很好。
JoB:
Okay,I got that. But every kid has a different way...
好吧,我明白了。但是每个小孩的方式都各有不同。。。
Katie:
See, like with the tantrum thing, let's look at that, it's like that what you called it. And that's what you believe it to be, and it's nothing more than it is what it is. Uh, it just is whatever you believe it to be. And whatever you believe it to be will stress you out , or it won't. And you can go to the doctor by the way, if it seems,, you know, like the child's in pain or in some kind of trouble. But, you don't have to be tormented yourself with it. Other than what you're believing , when you attach a story to what's going on.
Then the child gets older, and the same behavior continues. Mind begins to take that on and catch up with it, and use it to identify as. So the mind will give reasons and believe it. And that someone calls a tantrum, and then the child learned to call it a tantrum.
Hey, it wasn't that way when she didn't know what it was?
嘿,难道说当她还不知道那是怎么一回事的时候,就不会是那样的么?
Katie:
Yeah, it was nothing, until she became a believer.(Right) And then she became a believer, then mind has a reason for everything it believes. It keeps that personality or that identity alive (right) to itself.And it's nothing more than if the child had no mind, was absolutely brain-dead, it would appear to be throwing these tantrums, cuz that's what you believe they are. And basically it is just what it is.
So, I mean, you know, would you say that aging is a belief?
所以,我的意思是,你认为老化也是一个信念么?
Katie:
Well, absolutely.
嗯,绝对是。
JoB:
And time passing is a belief?(Nodding), a thought, right? (Nodding).
时间流逝也是一个信念?(点头),是一个念头,是么?(点头)
Katie:
A concept, a thought.
一个概念,一个想法。
JoB:
The body seems to age...
可是身体看起来就是会变老啊。。。
Katie:
If you have a past to compare it to.
前提是你得把它和过去的它进行比较。
JoB:
Right, that's true. You said that mind is seeking a place to rest,what does that mean?
对的,是这样。你说心念一直在追寻可以停歇的地方,那是什么意思呢?
Katie:
Well, another way I said it, is seeking a home for itself, a place to rest in itself.
嗯,我的另一种说法是,它一直在为自己追寻一个家,一个可以自我休息的地方。
Because you know, if you think the thought , uh, for example, "I can't do it." The mind immediately travels to find some kind of resolution for that. And all it knows how to do, is ,is find examples of why that's true. Mind is , is brilliant. And it's seeking for truth.
So it thinks "I, I can't do it." So then it gives ,, it begins to experience all the ,, it's the images and concepts to prove that, that "it can't do it." That's how it keeps the past , that's how it gives the illusion of a past. It doesn't keep it, it just keeps the illusions. That, uh, that ,uh, people believe the images in their head, and it really looks like a past is real, even though it can not be.
So when mind ask itself," Is it true?" " I can't do it, is it true?" Then uh, in that space of don't know, you experience who you are, without the thought "I can't do it." (mm-hm) Mind experiences that, and then options flood in.(Right) They flood in. When the mind is busy showing us images and concepts of why we can't do it, those options are not available.
So, you asked me what is God. And when we believe " we can't do it.", for example, that thought becomes our God, and it's all we're worshipping. It's like I can't do it , because ,because , because,,,because ,because ,because ... So ,that is worship.That is devotion. And that takes everything up, and there's no room for anything other than that, when mind is in it.
So when the mind has the presence to question itself, for example, " I can't do it. Is it true?" Then it stops moving to that polarity, if the intention is there.(Right) And it stops moving into the polarity of " can't do it,can't do it, can't do it" and all the proof. And it begins to open to something else. And that's brilliant, that's brilliant, and in that the mind can rest.
And "is it true?", it doesn't matter what stressful thought you apply that to, if the intention is there, if you really want to know the truth,and the intention's there,mind will stop. And it will go another direction. Until eventualy, it learns its own nature. My short version is, the universe is friendly.Mind's own nature, friendly. And it lives in that polarity, and in that duality ceases to exist. There's only one, and it's good, and it is its own true nature.There is nothing within it that can grasp anything else, it's totally out of denial, and it is pure, pure infinite creative mind, (mm-hm), unstuck. It's, it's very exciting.
If you think a thought,(uh-huh), Okay? So, you just said "uh-huh"(Right) Okay. Where's your proof? Where did it go? Only the thought appearing now exists as proof ,that "uh-huh" even existed. So without the thought, where's the proof? So you would...(It's not there.) " It's not there." and where die that thought go? (Astonished).So actually even thought doesn't exist. Actually when I say mind is everything, the truth is, and when you look at , when you look at it really, even thoughts don't exist.Nor the problems not exist, but neither is mind. (mm).
And I invite everyone not to believe me, but to test it for themselves.(Right). All of these.There's nothing I say that I don't , I just, I just invite people not to believe me, please not to believe me, and simply to test it for themselves. Otherwise,words just are taken on its concepts, the ego just inflates and nothing really gets done.(it's the same, right? it's the same...) We just looked wise and smart, and until it's realized , it's ,it's it's just of no value. It's just more denial.
But I just ,I say this again, I love that, I love that there's no pressure on me to get more than I get.(Nodding) And not ony that, it's more than that for me. It's more than that.