you know , your friend , there was a friend she's in the hospital and ,and and this is that interaction. You know, you told her that, okay..
你知道,你的朋友,你有一个朋友住在医院,你们交谈,你告诉她。。。
Katie:
she said, "I love you ,I was on my way out. and not expecting to ..." um ,she wasn't expecting that she would ever see me again. you know, um, she was dying, and she said," I love you." and I said,"you know, sweet heart, that's not possible, you know. It's , as long, and until you love cancer, you can't love me.” because every thought she believes about that cancer, the first time I don't give her what she wants or threaten what she has, then those thoughts would be attached to me just like they are cancer. Because there are no new stressful thoughts. We don't like cancer, we don't like , you know, we put those thoughts on our partners, on our children eventually, when , when anything opposes our will or what we want.
When you say this, I can get it. it's ah, it's um very againse my beliefs, you know. or something.
当你这么说的时候,我能够明白,嗯,它与我的信念非常不同,你知道,与我所相信的那些念头完全不同。
Katie:
And cancer happens (right), and I do like to say that cancer has a right to life.I'm for it right to life. And we can do chemotherapy,we can do all of that, and cancer lives or dies.
And I prefer, if I look , I prefer not to have it.
嗯,我宁愿,如果可以选择,我宁愿不要癌症。。
Katie:
Well, how intelligent of you! (wow, genius.I knew it.) Yeah. but you know ,of course who wants cancer , you know, when they love life, and I have to say ,that I'm open, one way or the other, I don't have a preference. Because you know, where I live is , is ah, what do I know what's best for me.
Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether you are or not.
嗯,要知道,其实与你能不能做到根本没有关系,癌症该发生就会发生,。
JoB:
But I get it. you know what I'm saying? (I do.) I get that it's possible..It。
但是我明白,你能懂我的话么?(我能)我明白它是一种可能性。
Katie:
Yeah. It's almost like if , if I say , you know, if I have cancer, that's fine with me. and if I don't have cancer, that's fine with me. and it's almost as though people are frightened to be that awake or aware about balance in their life, or what is in their life. As though we're so superstitious , if we say it's okay if I have cancer, that I'm actually going to bring it on. (Right, if I think that I like it ,that I'm inviting it.) and look at what ancients we are, to still be superstitious. I mean that that just that is .. It's like, " Oh, I can't say that , I can't even think that. It could happen.” You know, like I have the power? But what people say, you create your own reality, people get cancer, and they said,"oh, what did I do to create the cancer." you know, like they did it.
So I can safely say, you know, if I get cancer, you know, I get it. and if that's what's best for my life, I'm for it. and in what do I know.But I know, right now, cancer is not what's best for my life, because I don't have it. and I could be sitting here just full of it, but until a doctor tells me, I don't have cancer.(Right) In other words, until I believe it.
Well. No, I don't believe it. (Now I see).Because they don't tell me. And of course "I" , you know, if we look to this one to me, I don't know, and it's not my business if this body has cancer, my business is to work with my mind, and keep this body as healthy as respectfully as I can. That's how I say it. And the rest is , the rest is all good.
Who is God in the book? who do you, what do you mean when you say God?
在这本书里,上帝是谁?对你而言,上帝意味着谁?
Katie:
So, God for me is reality, Because it rules, and it rules absolutely. What I mean by that, is it is what it is. It is what it is. In other words, this table is , is sitting here. It's a table. I call that the last story. You question that, and, and you don't have much. And that's okay,too. But the last story, you know, this table, that's reality in this, um, um, apparent world that people believe they live in. So , and that's enough.(Right)
Like a table, that's reality. Okay, now the story we put on the table. That's not reality.(En, pretty table,) you say," it's an ugly table." " it doesn't work in here." or " it does work in here."
So let me say, okay, this is , I don't know if this is an odd question. But let's say you're an interior decorator, right? and there's a group and your home is in Architectural Digest, that's considered beautiful. But isn't it's like, there's like an agreement that that's beautiful?You know, there's a certain home that most people agree wouldn't be in there. Is that true?
Well, you know, it's up to you to look at the magazine and, and ,and determine for yourself.You could say, you know, I'm the only one that thinks" this is, uh, terrible." and question that. Or "Isn't this beautiful?" and imagine that other people agree. And it's just all up to you.
Then what gets it into , you know, what gets it in there? What gets it into the magazine?
那么,是什么让这个家装案例进入到,,,嗯,是什么让这个案例刊登在杂志上的呢?
Katie:
Well, in the moment your head did. (Dumpfounded) In the moment your head did. That's the only place that exists, whether you're holding the magazine or we're just discussing it right now.
But in other words, right, okay.(Good.) Yeah. (Caught up with yourself.) yeah, I got it.
但是换句话说,好的,ok,(很好!)是的。(跟上你自己的现实。)是的,我明白了。
Katie:
Yeah, brings you out of another world, into man sitting on chair, talking with friend.(Right.) That's really nice. Again that's the last story, and it's enough for me. It's all I ever need to know, is what's going on right here right now, and be awake to that, and serve that at a hundred percent.